If you've posted in forums you might remember writing some decent responses. I usually spend a lot of time polishing my discussion forum responses depending on the subject or who I am talking to. Often I want to remember what I said about something, but finding the original post can be difficult. So it makes sense to capture the better responses for later review. Welcome to Clint's Reposts.Thursday, April 06, 2006
What would Jesus do?
In the Politics forum a response to: http://www.network54.com/Forum/79106/message/1144358144/Obviously
Ben's instincts are right IMHO.
Many in this country use the term "illegal immigrant" because in their heart they have bought into the idea that the flow of people from poorer regions to our region--and a border is an arbitrary geographical line backed by military force--spells woe and misfortune, or, as Shana expresses in a loftier way, our woe will stem from a lack of: "love for and an allegiance to this country".
The love of nation can stir the heart in all of us, for being human, we long to belong to a magnificent tribe. Humans are designed that way. What exactly is the fear of the tribe here in the U.S.? That an influx of non-tribe individuals will overwhelm our already overtaxed socialist system? What exactly is our ulterior motive? Why do we strive for all residing in the tribal lands to have a common language, a chant a pledge of tribal allegiance?
As for knowing our written constitution, how many natives actually know it, live it? Not many do is the impression I get reading reports of the sad failure of most natives to recite the concepts of our founders, much less live them. Sadly, our tribal leaders no longer protect the rights granted by the language of our founders. Instead, they allow special interests to usurp these rights in the name of the "common good", a shifty unreliable concept at best.
Many, if not most, non-tribe individuals travel to our lands simply to improve their lot in life--to get a better job, to pursue happiness, to provide a better existence for their loved ones. Arriving here, our guests are greeted not only with work, but with our magnificent welfare state. The welfare state--a magnificent bureaucratic degeneration of the best of human impulse; the impulse of most humans to help our fellow man in need.
Because our human impulse of charity is entrapped within the maze of government welfare "programs", we become free to dispense with individual charity and instead can safely feel "threatened" that our government programs are under attack by the "aliens"; that maybe the program we fund so generously (not that we have a choice) won't be there for ME or other tribesman if things go too far! Perhaps it is that lack of choice--that we must fund the program, the program that we funded that is helping, gasp, non-tribesman that really insults us.
Do you really think that 2nd generation kids from the original non-English speaking invaders won't know English after growing up here? Do you think they won't know the pledge? The constitution? And why, oh tribal sister, do you think that "Los Angeles County has the highest number of foreign-language ballots – six – that are required by the Justice Department in the nation." This is your Justice Department, your tribal leaders. Save your angst for them. Direct your ill will toward them. Vote the rascals out and restore a single language. Too late I fear. Abandonment of founding principals led you here--led the tribe here.
Most aliens who work here would have gladly returned home but, having tasted the honey of taxpayer funded welfare (granted by you and your representative) will only send for the others. They will each have love for and allegiance to this country for the bounty it offers, and most of them will work hard and in so doing increase that bounty. And, sadly what you, and not just you miss, is that in the long run, you and your offspring will be better for it. In fact you've already been reaping the benefits for a long time now.
Clint
Ben's instincts are right IMHO.
Many in this country use the term "illegal immigrant" because in their heart they have bought into the idea that the flow of people from poorer regions to our region--and a border is an arbitrary geographical line backed by military force--spells woe and misfortune, or, as Shana expresses in a loftier way, our woe will stem from a lack of: "love for and an allegiance to this country".
The love of nation can stir the heart in all of us, for being human, we long to belong to a magnificent tribe. Humans are designed that way. What exactly is the fear of the tribe here in the U.S.? That an influx of non-tribe individuals will overwhelm our already overtaxed socialist system? What exactly is our ulterior motive? Why do we strive for all residing in the tribal lands to have a common language, a chant a pledge of tribal allegiance?
As for knowing our written constitution, how many natives actually know it, live it? Not many do is the impression I get reading reports of the sad failure of most natives to recite the concepts of our founders, much less live them. Sadly, our tribal leaders no longer protect the rights granted by the language of our founders. Instead, they allow special interests to usurp these rights in the name of the "common good", a shifty unreliable concept at best.
Many, if not most, non-tribe individuals travel to our lands simply to improve their lot in life--to get a better job, to pursue happiness, to provide a better existence for their loved ones. Arriving here, our guests are greeted not only with work, but with our magnificent welfare state. The welfare state--a magnificent bureaucratic degeneration of the best of human impulse; the impulse of most humans to help our fellow man in need.
Because our human impulse of charity is entrapped within the maze of government welfare "programs", we become free to dispense with individual charity and instead can safely feel "threatened" that our government programs are under attack by the "aliens"; that maybe the program we fund so generously (not that we have a choice) won't be there for ME or other tribesman if things go too far! Perhaps it is that lack of choice--that we must fund the program, the program that we funded that is helping, gasp, non-tribesman that really insults us.
Do you really think that 2nd generation kids from the original non-English speaking invaders won't know English after growing up here? Do you think they won't know the pledge? The constitution? And why, oh tribal sister, do you think that "Los Angeles County has the highest number of foreign-language ballots – six – that are required by the Justice Department in the nation." This is your Justice Department, your tribal leaders. Save your angst for them. Direct your ill will toward them. Vote the rascals out and restore a single language. Too late I fear. Abandonment of founding principals led you here--led the tribe here.
Most aliens who work here would have gladly returned home but, having tasted the honey of taxpayer funded welfare (granted by you and your representative) will only send for the others. They will each have love for and allegiance to this country for the bounty it offers, and most of them will work hard and in so doing increase that bounty. And, sadly what you, and not just you miss, is that in the long run, you and your offspring will be better for it. In fact you've already been reaping the benefits for a long time now.
Clint
