If you've posted in forums you might remember writing some decent responses. I usually spend a lot of time polishing my discussion forum responses depending on the subject or who I am talking to. Often I want to remember what I said about something, but finding the original post can be difficult. So it makes sense to capture the better responses for later review. Welcome to Clint's Reposts.Wednesday, April 21, 2004
The Bell Tolls for your Freedom (Politics Forum)
Tao wrote:
"As I have said before, the war in Iraq did nothing for my freedom, if it did I have not been able to see who our campaign in Iraq makes me more free or secures my freedom."
Ah, I see. Well, IMHO, there is much more going on here then the rather provincial viewpoint of whether this war in Iraq has been good for one's own freedom. From your statement, I immediately thought of the poem by John Donne:
For Whom The Bell Tolls
John Donne
No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manner of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
It's true we can argue as to the rationale for going into Iraq. But, at the end of the day I rather think the picture is more like is expressed in the poem. While some may argue that we are increasing death both short term and long term by being in Iraq, I've never felt that way. Perhaps the war in Iraq did more for your freedom then you could possibly know yet. It's too early to tell yet.
C
"As I have said before, the war in Iraq did nothing for my freedom, if it did I have not been able to see who our campaign in Iraq makes me more free or secures my freedom."
Ah, I see. Well, IMHO, there is much more going on here then the rather provincial viewpoint of whether this war in Iraq has been good for one's own freedom. From your statement, I immediately thought of the poem by John Donne:
For Whom The Bell Tolls
John Donne
No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manner of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
It's true we can argue as to the rationale for going into Iraq. But, at the end of the day I rather think the picture is more like is expressed in the poem. While some may argue that we are increasing death both short term and long term by being in Iraq, I've never felt that way. Perhaps the war in Iraq did more for your freedom then you could possibly know yet. It's too early to tell yet.
C
